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Cae Dommen Fawr, Clydey

Also known as, or recorded in historical documents as;
Cae Domen Fawr

In the community of Clydau.
In the historic county of Pembrokeshire.
Modern authority of Pembrokeshire.
Preserved county of Dyfed.

OS Map Grid Reference: SN27723282
Latitude 51.96667° Longitude -4.50833°

Cae Dommen Fawr, Clydey has been described as a Timber Castle although is doubtful that it was such.

There are no visible remains.

Description

Dyfed Archaeological Trust HER report of possible motte.

Cae domen fawr, almost certainly the site of a vanished mound of the motte type (13S.W., lat 51° 58' 0", long. 4° 30' 30"), with the significant place-names Hen ffald and Cnwe y beili almost adjoining, and the present Cadivor Hall less than a mile away to the east. (RCAHMW 1925)

Comments

Nothing apparent on map or aerial photo.
Hen-fflad (Old Farmyard) and Cnwe y beili (beili can mean bailey but also refers to lower status courtyards) are close by but have no obviously relationship other than proximity. Is 'field of the little mound' really that suggestive of a motte castle?
Footpaths did run to this location possibly suggesting something was here although what is open to considerable question. The field are shown as scrub on earlier maps suggesting this is not a area subject to intense agriculture and other pre-historic mounds and camps do survive in the area. However a small barrow, without ditches, might arguably have been readily lost without sign. The hill slope location is, perhaps, more that of a barrow than a motte.
Cadifor Hall is a much later building taking its name from local mythology that is arguably better associated with Carmarthenshire just south of this site.

Links to archaeological and architectural databases, mapping and other online resources

Data >		County HER
Maps >	Streetmap	NLS maps	Where's the path	Old-Maps
Data/Maps >	Magic	Historic Wales	V. O. B.	Geology	LIDAR
Air Photos >	Bing Maps	Google Maps	Getmapping	ZoomEarth
Photos >	CastleFacts	Geograph	Flickr	Panoramio

Sources of information, references and further reading

The County Historic Environment Record (formerly Sites and Monuments Record) number(s) for this site is/are 1113.

Books
- RCAHMW, 1925, An inventory of the Ancient Monuments of Pembrokeshire (HMSO) p. 71 no. 169 online copy

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The bibliography owes much to various bibliographies produced by John Kenyon for the Council for British Archaeology, the Castle Studies Group and others.

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This record last updated before 1 February 2016

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